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Friendly Fire - Where did it happen?

There were 2 skirmishes on 12 Nov 1758. First the one with the French. Then the one with 1st Virginia and 2nd 2nd Virginia colliding.




Washington writes some 30 years later:


"The enemy sent out a large detachment

to reconnoitre our Camp,


[All officers referred in their letters as Loyalhannon or some version of spelling. Only after 1 Dec 1758 did any officer call it Fort Ligonier in their letters.]


and to ascertain our strength;

in consequence of Intelligence

that they were

within 2 miles of the Camp

a party commanded by

Lt Colo. Mercer of the Virga line (a gallant & good Officer) was sent to to dislodge them between who a Severe conflict & hot firing ensued which lasting some time & appearing to approach the Camp …" See Source.



The Pennsylania Gazette on 30 Nov 1758 states:

“On the 12th Instant, Colonel Washington being out with a scouting Party, fell in with a Number of the Enemy, about three Miles from our Camp, whom he attacked, . . . " See Source.

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Douglas Southall Freeman's repeats the Pennsylvania Gazette claim in his footnote:

"Washington proceeded briskly and in the late afternoon, at a point about three miles from camp, came upon a party of French and Indians around a fire. " See Source.


Douglas Southall Freeman uses that same publication for the killed and wounded statistics. See his footnote 163: "in Forbes to Abercromby, Nov 17, 1758 {Forbes, 255), the total casualties are listed. The Penn Gazette of Nov 30, 1758, reprinted in Md Gazette of Dec 7, 1758, is authority for the statement that the killed were thirteen or fourteen." See Source.


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Somewhere within those 2 circles between

Chestnut Ridge and Laurel Hill,

the French were discovered and the Friendly Fire happened after that.

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Sergeant Lindenmuth, A German soldier with Burd's Pennsylvania Provincials wrote:

". . . about 1,100 French and Indians came to attack us. But they were discovered one mile from the Fort [Loyalhanna later called Ligonier]. Immediately 2,000 men were sent to meet them. . . . . to surround them in a valley behind a mountain. They however left their camp and our peope ran into each other in the dark and killed 11 [of our] men and also wounded several of ours. They came back in several hours in a distressed state and our enemy sped quickly away [without] having suffered any injury. The next morning -- we buried our dead with heavy hearts." See Source.




So, we don't know the exact spot.

What if it happened right where the Bethlen Nursing Home is now?


We're thinking roughly north of the camp and fort about 2 miles.

That's the Nursing Home.

Think that was a good spot as a defensible overlook?


Or was the French campfire near a ravine, for water?


Any findings by the locals metal detecting the area over the years?


Play with the interactive map above.




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Compiled and written by Jim Moyer 2/25/2018, 10/4/2018, 10/9/2018, 10/10/2018, 11/10/19, 11/13/2022, 11/15/2022, 11/17/2022



 

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Sources


George Washington Remembers

End quote of Page 23 from George Washington’s Remarks chapter in “George Washington Remembers, edited by Fred Anderson.”

also on Founders Online Foot note 1, middle of 3rd paragraph




Pennsylvania Gazette 30 Nov 1758

Founders Online Footnote 1, 2nd paragraph



Young George Washington, Volume 2, Pages 357-359, published 1948, Charles Scribner's Sons



Sergeant Lindenmuth quote

Cited page 35 of the Journal of Sergeant Johann Michael Lindenmuth:

Page 153 of The British Defeat of the French in Pennsylvania, 1758: A Military History of the Forbes Campaign Against Fort Duquesne: by Douglas R. Cubbison.

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Found this map and just wanted to compare it to our interactive map.




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