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Virginia Goods for the Cherokees sitting in Salisbury

On 8 Nov 1759, the Virginia Executive Council decides not to join the Lyttelton expedition. South Carolina Governor Lyttelton had requested Virginia Regiment help.


Instead, The Executive Council decided to move some of the Virginia Regiment garrisoned at Pittsburg to the southern border of Virginia to guard against any Cherokee incursions.


To help Lyttelton's August 1759 embargo of goods and particularly blackpowder, the House of Burgesses had agreed to stop their wagon train of previously promised gifts to the Cherokee.


Those supplies and gifts are sitting in Salisbury NC, Yadkin River country, a place where many settlers came to from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.


This Yadkin River near Salisbury NC was an area where Daniel Boone and wife Rebecca Bryan (both first met in Frederick Co VA around 1750 and then married 14 Aug 1756), followed his Dad, Squire Boone with extended family and friends around 1752, after first living in the Harrisonburg area of Virginia near the Lincoln family.



To summarize,

these goods promised before

the 1758 Forbes Expedition

never got delivered

even a year later because after a peace treaty in Dec 1759 was signed, hostilties renewed.



In an 25 Oct 1759 letter SC Gov Lyttelton wrote to Virginia a hopeful letter that if hostilities stop, that those goods in Salisbury NC be given to the Cherokees as originally promised them. The Virginia Executive Council on 21 Dec 1759 notes the letter and will do what Lyttelton asked, providing hostilities do not resume.




That's it.

That's our lead story.

Below is the documented sequence of events:

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Compiled by Jim Moyer 11/5/23, update 11/10/23, 11/12/2023, 11/21/23



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The goods sitting in Salisbury NC from Virginia

This wagon train of goods promised to the Cherokee nation to entice them to join the 1758 Forbes Expedition is now stopped in Salisbury, North Carolina.




"His Honor also communicated a Letter from Governor Lyttelton , dated Charles - Town the 25th of Octor , promising , if Matters are brought to a successful Issue , in the Cherokee Nation , to take the first Opportunity of acquainting those who remain with the Goods at Salisbury therewith."




 

Special Presents for certain Cherokee leaders

These "presents" and supplies were authorized by the Virginia Executive Council earlier than 13 June 1759 but on that date they amended it by specifying certain Cherokee leaders should get a little extra for themselves.


Council journal:


Upon which it was the Advice of the Council,

that the Goods now in the Country

for carrying on a Trade with the said Indians,

be forthwith sent away to their Nation ;

and that a Present out of them of £ 25 , Value ,

be given to Hop ,

and the Little Carpenter,

the two Chiefs of that Nation ,


Source:

#158 (p.140)

Executive Journals , Council of Colonial Virginia


Little Carpenter at this Executive Council meeting




 

Status of these Gifts a year later


#171-172 (p. 154)- 1 matching term

21 Feb 1760


Peace Treaty 27 Dec 1759

His Honor was pleased to communicate to the Board a Letter from Governor Lyttleton , dated Fort Prince George Decemr . 27th 1759 , transmitting a Copy of the Treaty which he concluded the Day before with the Cherokees -


Peace Treaty broken by renewed hostilities

Also another Letter from him , dated Charles - Town Feby . 2d informing that since the Treaty of Peace concluded with those Indians , they have renewed their Hostilities , and slain a considerable Number of his Majesty's Subjects trading in their Towns , and that he has strong grounds to apprehend they will very speedily make Incursions in that , and the neighbouring Provinces -


inclosing a Copy of a Letter to him from Lieutenant Coytmore , dated Fort Prince George giving a


Help Fort Loudoun [in today's Tennessee]

particular Relation of the late Behaviour of the said Indians-in- treating his Honor to send a Reinforcement of Men and Provisions to Fort Loudoun [in today's Tennessee] as soon as possible, to secure that Post from falling into the Hands of the Indians-


The presents still sitting in Salisbury NC

adding that he had dispatched an Express to Salisbury; in No. Carolina with a Letter to the Store keeper of the Indian-trading-Goods lodged there, belonging to this Province, a Copy of which was inclosed....




 

Status of these Gifts 2 years later

#215 (p. 197)- 1 matching term

17 Oct 1761


...Also a Letter from Colo. Stephen dated Fort Chiswell September the 7th informing he had received a Letter from Colo. Waddell directed to Colo. Byrd dated Salisbury; the 26th of August advising he had just arrived there with 374 Men and 52 Indians that he had not above 50 Stands of Arms for the whole, but would use his endeavours to collect a sufficient Number thro' the Province, and was ready to obey his Orders; that thereupon he had dispatched an Express to Colo . Waddell informing him of the General's Intentions and requesting him to hurry off his Men by Detachment to join him , as fast as he could get them arm'd and appointed- that he shall immediately advance as far as the main River of


216 (p. 198)

Houlston and there act according to circumstances that he shall order all the Cherokees to leave the Camp , and never to return but with the certain News of a Peace , or with all the Chiefs of the Nation on their Way to Williamsburg to confirm it .





 

Status on Lyttelton's Expedition in Oct and early Nov


Round O's 45 Middle Settlement Cherokees were travelling separately home. They weren't taken hostage yet.


The other group of 55 Cherokees under Oconostota were already taken hostage. They were taken hostage back in Charleston Town in Council chambers.


They are now travelling with the supply wagon train under armed guard.


Governor Lyttelton and his cavalry are running ahead of that hostage group of Oconostota's Cherokees and the wagon train.



In doing so Governor Lyttelton meets up with Round O and his 45 Cherokees. That's 30 Oct 1759.


He informs Round O he wants satisfaction of getting the Cherokee murderers. Round O answers what Lyttelton wants to hear. So both groups travel together. But at Congarees, on 31 Oct 1759, Round O finds himself camped under Lyttelton's armed guards.


Now Lyttelton has two groups of Cherokees held hostage.


Another part of Lyttelton's army has future fame of hall names likes Marion Francis, the Swamp Fox and Gadsden traveling with the Regulars along with a rag tag militia. They left Charles Town (Charleston) 23 Oct 1759. They reach Monck's Corner 26 Oct 1759.


After 5 days with Lyttelton [4 Nov 1759], four of Round O's men escape to tell the whole Cherokee nation of the danger coming at them.


On 8 Nov 1759, the Virginia House of Burgesses decide not to join this expedition. They decide to move some of the Virginia Regiment garrisoned at Pittsburg to move towards the southern border of Virginia to guard against any Cherokee incursions. Also they had agreed to stop their wagon train of previously promised gifts to the Cherokee. They stopped that wagon train in Salisbury, North Carolina.




Compiled by Jim Moyer 11/5/23, update 11/10/23, 11/12/2023






 

Sources:


They left Charles Town (Charleston) 23 Oct 1759. They reach Monck's Corner 26 Oct 1759.

Page 181, The Cherokee Frontier, Conflict and Survival 1740-1762, by David H Corkran, published by the University of Oklahoma Press 1962).



But at Congarees, on 31 Oct 1759, Round O finds himself camped under Lyttelton's armed guards.

page 75, Carolina in Crisis: Cherokees, Colonists, and Slaves in the American .Southeast 1756-1763 By Daniel J. Tortora, published by the University of North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, 2015.




On 8 Nov 1759, the Virginia House of Burgesses decide not to join this expedition. They decide to move some of the Virginia Regiment garrisoned at Pittsburg to move towards the southern border of Virginia to guard against any Cherokee incursions.



The Boones

This Yadkin River near Salisbury NC was an area where Daniel Boone and wife Rebecca (married 14 Aug 1756, p.51) followed his Dad, Squire Boone with extended family and friends around 1752, after first living in the Harrisonburg area of Virginia near the Lincoln family.


Sources:

Morgan, Robert (2007). Boone: A Biography. Chapel Hill, NC: Algonquin Books of Chapel Hill. ISBN 978-1-56512-455-4. pages 47-51


Lincoln family


Squire Boone

Squire Boone probably reached the Yadkin River in late 1751 or early 1752 and may have lived first at the site of Boone's Cave in Davidson County [9]. A cave is there today on a high bluff well above the Yadkin River, and a replica cabin has been built at the site. Boone, Squire - NCpedia NCpediahttps://ncpedia.org › printpdf


Daniel Boone




Collected links on Execuitve Council


The goods sitting in Salisbury NC from Virginia

Also they had agreed to stop their wagon train of previously promised gifts to the Cherokee. They stopped that wagon train in Salisbury, North Carolina.


"His Honor also communicated a Letter from Governor Lyttelton , dated Charles - Town the 25th of Octor , promising , if Matters are brought to a successful Issue , in the Cherokee Nation , to take the first Opportunity of acquainting those who remain with the Goods at Salisbury therewith."



#169 (p. 151)- 1 matching term

8 Nov 1759


..His Honor also communicated a Letter from Governor Lyttelton, dated Charles-Town the 25th of Octor, promising, if Matters are brought to a successful Issue, in the Cherokee Nation, to take the first Opportunity of acquainting those who remain with the Goods at Salisbury; t


herewith. Mr. President produced to the Board several Letters he had re- ceived from Mr. Abercrombie, viz: a Letter of the 20th of May, and one of the 25th of June last, signifying the Pains he had taken in forming the Claim of Virginia, as set forth in his Petition to the Lords of the Treasury, a Copy whereof was inclosed relative to the Distribution of the �50,000; also the Claim for Virginia on the �200,000, which he had given in for the Services of the Year 1758, a Copy of which likewise came inclosed....



#171-172 (p. 154)- 1 matching term

21 Feb 1760


Peace Treaty 27 Dec 1759

His Honor was pleased to communicate to the Board a Letter from Governor Lyttleton , dated Fort Prince George Decemr . 27th 1759 , transmitting a Copy of the Treaty which he concluded the Day before with the Cherokees -


Peace Treaty broken by renewed hostilities

Also another Letter from him , dated Charles - Town Feby . 2d informing that since the Treaty of Peace concluded with those Indians , they have renewed their Hostilities , and slain a considerable Number of his Majesty's Subjects trading in their Towns , and that he has strong grounds to apprehend they will very speedily make Incursions in that , and the neighbouring Provinces -


inclosing a Copy of a Letter to him from Lieutenant Coytmore , dated Fort Prince George giving a


Help Fort Loudoun [in today's Tennessee]

particular Relation of the late Behaviour of the said Indians-in- treating his Honor to send a Reinforcement of Men and Provisions to Fort Loudoun [in today's Tennessee] as soon as possible, to secure that Post from falling into the Hands of the Indians-


The presents still sitting in Salisbury NC

adding that he had dispatched an Express to Salisbury; in No. Carolina with a Letter to the Store keeper of the Indian-trading-Goods lodged there, belonging to this Province, a Copy of which was inclosed....



#215 (p. 197)- 1 matching term

17 Oct 1761


...Also a Letter from Colo. Stephen dated Fort Chiswell September the 7th informing he had received a Letter from Colo. Waddell directed to Colo. Byrd dated Salisbury; the 26th of August advising he had just arrived there with 374 Men and 52 Indians that he had not above 50 Stands of Arms for the whole, but would use his endeavours to collect a sufficient Number thro' the Province, and was ready to obey his Orders; that thereupon he had dispatched an Express to Colo . Waddell informing him of the General's Intentions and requesting him to hurry off his Men by Detachment to join him , as fast as he could get them arm'd and appointed- that he shall immediately advance as far as the main River of


216 (p. 198)

Houlston and there act according to circumstances that he shall order all the Cherokees to leave the Camp , and never to return but with the certain News of a Peace , or with all the Chiefs of the Nation on their Way to Williamsburg to confirm it .

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Sunday Word 3

posted 11/12/23 in

Sunday Word 3

We're still covering the slow burn and destruction heading towards the Cherokee Nation. The juggernaut of migration is a greater force than any military invasion. We see that truism thoughout history back to the origins of human kind. We see it with the Han dominating the Uygurs in Sinkiang province in China. We saw it with the Dorian migation in ancient Greece.

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We document the holding off of promised gifts to the Cherokee for coming north to join the Forbes Expedition. This is due to the continuing hostilities ever since the end of that Forbes Expedition.

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How a feud starts is never justly understood by either side. It's just a primitive force of nature that has to have its way. And even that is not a just summary of the problem.

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We are also documenting the first of 3 military expeditions against the Cherokee nation, of which SC royal Gov Lyttelton's expedition is first.

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VA's "presents" and supplies


On 12 Dec 1759 The Executive Council of Virginia met. They considered a letter from Lyttelton. Lyttelton stated if all goes well, then let the men guarding the supplies and gifts promised to the Cherokees to proceed and deliver those items to the Cherokee nation. Those supplies and gifts have been sitting in Salisbury NC.



His Honor also communicated a Letter from Governor Lyttelton , dated Charles - Town the 25th of Octor , promising , if Matters are brought to a successful Issue , in the Cherokee Nation , to take the first Opportunity of acquainting those who remain with the Goods at Salisbury therewith .


Source from House of Burgesses Journal


What became of those "promised" presents and supplies to the Cherokees?


Do not give the presents

21 Feb 1760

His Honor was pleased to communicate to the Board a Letter from Governor Lyttleton , dated Fort Prince George Decemr . 27th 1759 , transmitting a Copy of the Treaty which he concluded the Day before with the Cherokees - Also another Letter from him , dated Charles - Town Feby . 2d


informing that since the Treaty of Peace concluded with those Indians , they have renewed their Hostilities , and slain a considerable Number of his Majesty's Subjects trading in their Towns , and that he has strong grounds to apprehend they will very speedily make Incursions in that , and the neighbouring Provinces - inclosing a Copy of a Letter to him from Lieutenant Coytmore , dated Fort Prince George giving a


.particular Relation of the late Behaviour of the said Indians-in- treating his Honor to send a Reinforcement of Men and Provisions to Fort Loudoun as soon as possible, to secure that Post from falling into the Hands of the Indians-adding that he had dispatched an Express to Salisbury; in No. Carolina with a Letter to the Store keeper of the Indian-trading-Goods lodged there, belonging to this Prov- ince, a Copy of which was inclosed....


Not much left

17 Oct 1761

...Also a Letter from Colo. Stephen dated Fort Chiswell September the 7th informing he had received a Letter from Colo. Waddell directed to Colo. Byrd dated Salisbury; the 26th of August advising he had just arrived there with 374 Men and 52 Indians that he had not above 50 Stands of Arms for the whole, but would use his endeavours to collect a sufficient Number thro' the Province, and was ready to obey his Orders; that thereupon he had dispatched an Express to Colo....


Houlston and there act according to circumstances that he shall order all the Cherokees to leave the Camp , and never to return but with the certain News of a Peace , or with all the Chiefs of the Nation on their Way to Williamsburg to confirm it .


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